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Troll v.d. Engelsburg
Inbred pedigree Click here for inbred pedigree
 
Name Troll v.d. Engelsburg
Owner Unknown
Breeder Franz Möbius (v.d. Engelsburg)
Gender Stud
Pedigreebook DZB
Pedigreenumber DZB 48591
Colour Black
Sire Muck v. Brunia
Dam Adda v. Heek
Date of birth 1933-06-01
Date deceased 1945-10-27
Cause of death 12-year / ?
Picture
Extra information Import USA: AKC SBA 201182
SchH I
German Champion
World Winner 1935
Canadian Champion
American Champion

Source: In the beginning...A history of the Dobermann by J. M. v.d. Zwan.

This black male was the leading stud dog in Germany during the years 1935-1937. In 1934, at one of his first shows, the judge mr. Wilhelm Baumann said:
'a dog correct in size and body. Coat and clour are good, although his eyes could be darker. A promise for the future'.

The latter was correct. Later that year he became the best male at the Reichssieger show, but because he was too young, the title went to Blitz v.d. Domstadt. In 1935 he became Reichssieger and World Winner. He also gained his German, American and Canadian Champion titles.

In the USA and Canada he went Best of Breed 95 times and Best in Show 48 times. In Europe he sired outstanding progeny like Fee v. Bassewitz, Waldo and Wakker v.d. Wachtparade, Ossi v. Stahlhelm and Ferry v. Rauhfelsen eso. In 1938, at the Reichssiegershow, 50 % of all the dogs and bitches shown were descendants of Troll.
At this show his quality as a stud dog was proved in that the Sieger, Siegerin and also the runners up were all sired by him.

It was a shame for the European Dobermann breed that he was exported to mr. E. Bornstein of Peoria, Illinois USA.
His new owner showed him extensively but he was not used widely as stud and maybe it was better for the breed in the USA if the reserve was true. Despite his limited use as stud he left 13 American Champions.

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HD Status Unknown
PHTVL/PHPV Unknown
"von Willebrand" Unknown
Wobbler Syndrom (C.V.I.) Unknown
Cardiomyopathie Holter and Echo Unknown
Cardiomyopathie DNA Marker Unknown
Dilute Unknown
Inbred percentage 9.9607 %
Brothers and sisters _____________________________________________________________________
Tasso v.d. EngelsburgUnknown
1933-06-010000-00-00
Tatjana v.d. EngelsburgUnknown
1933-06-010000-00-00
Treu v.d. EngelsburgUnknown
1933-06-010000-00-00
Pups _____________________________________________________________________
Arno v. BurseUnknown
0000-00-000000-00-00
Arno v.d. KruppstadtUnknown
0000-00-000000-00-00
Cholley's Carolyn v. GlenhugelUnknown
0000-00-000000-00-00
Cholley's Charlie v. GlenhugelUnknown
0000-00-000000-00-00
Cora v. WürttembergUnknown
0000-00-000000-00-00
Isolde v.d. KlessmannshöheUnknown
0000-00-000000-00-00
King v.d. TrollUnknown
0000-00-000000-00-00
Missy Asta v.d. TrollUnknown
0000-00-000000-00-00
Norma v. StahlhelmUnknown
0000-00-000000-00-00
Nurmi v. StahlhelmUnknown
0000-00-000000-00-00
Otti v. StahlhelmUnknown
0000-00-000000-00-00
Trolline v. ShellUnknown
0000-00-000000-00-00
Mara v.d. RheinperleUnknown
1935-04-270000-00-00
Marko v.d. RheinperleUnknown
1935-04-270000-00-00
Mia v.d. RheinperleUnknown
1935-04-270000-00-00
Mira v.d. RheinperleUnknown
1935-04-270000-00-00
Mona v.d. RheinperleUnknown
1935-04-270000-00-00
Nagel v. StahlhelmUnknown
1935-06-080000-00-00
Nora v. StahlhelmUnknown
1935-06-080000-00-00
Holm v. HenzeUnknown
1935-08-290000-00-00
Horst (DZB 50675)Unknown
1935-08-290000-00-00
Alfa v. HollingenUnknown
1935-09-040000-00-00
Astor v. HollingenUnknown
1935-09-040000-00-00
Orest v. StahlhelmUnknown
1935-09-200000-00-00
Ossi v. StahlhelmUnknown
1935-09-201949-01-0013y.4m. / ? (according to ADPEF arc
Anita v. EynattenUnknown
1935-10-120000-00-00
Apoll v. EynattenUnknown
1935-10-120000-00-00
Arno v. EynattenUnknown
1935-10-120000-00-00
Christel v. Gross-EssenUnknown
1935-10-210000-00-00
Cilly v. Gross-EssenUnknown
1935-10-210000-00-00
Adda v. TauzieherUnknown
1936-01-220000-00-00
Anka v. TauzieherUnknown
1936-01-220000-00-00
Arno v. TauzieherUnknown
1936-01-220000-00-00
Asta v. TauzieherUnknown
1936-01-220000-00-00
Astor v. TauzieherUnknown
1936-01-220000-00-00
Hamlet v. HagenstolzUnknown
1936-01-250000-00-00
Held v. HagenstolzUnknown
1936-01-250000-00-00
Helga v. HagenstolzUnknown
1936-01-250000-00-00
Helios v. HagenstolzUnknown
1936-01-250000-00-00
Heyde v. HagenstolzUnknown
1936-01-250000-00-00
Horst v. HagenstolzUnknown
1936-01-250000-00-00
Adda v. WiesenbruchUnknown
1936-01-280000-00-00
Alf v. WiesenbruchUnknown
1936-01-280000-00-00
Alto v. WiesenbruchUnknown
1936-01-280000-00-00
Anni v. WiesenbruchUnknown
1936-01-280000-00-00
Ari v. WiesenbruchUnknown
1936-01-280000-00-00
Asta v. WiesenbruchUnknown
1936-01-280000-00-00
Alma v. LilientalUnknown
1936-02-250000-00-00
Alto v. LilientalUnknown
1936-02-250000-00-00
Anni v. LilientalUnknown
1936-02-250000-00-00
Argo v. LilientalUnknown
1936-02-250000-00-00
Arno v. LilientalUnknown
1936-02-250000-00-00
Artus v. LilientalUnknown
1936-02-250000-00-00
Asso v. LilientalUnknown
1936-02-250000-00-00
Asta v. LilientalUnknown
1936-02-250000-00-00
Falko v. BassewitzUnknown
1936-02-250000-00-00
Fanny v. BassewitzUnknown
1936-02-250000-00-00
Fedor v. BassewitzUnknown
1936-02-250000-00-00
Fee v. BassewitzUnknown
1936-02-250000-00-00
Gerd v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-04-060000-00-00
Gerda v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-04-060000-00-00
German v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-04-060000-00-00
Gilda v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-04-060000-00-00
Golf v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-04-060000-00-00
Graf v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-04-060000-00-00
Gregor v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-04-060000-00-00
Greif v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-04-060000-00-00
Grimm v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-04-060000-00-00
Götz v. Simmenau (DZP 50951)Unknown
1936-04-060000-00-00
Rappo v. StahlhelmUnknown
1936-04-150000-00-00
Rex v. StahlhelmUnknown
1936-04-150000-00-00
Ritter v. StahlhelmUnknown
1936-04-150000-00-00
Rival v. StahlhelmUnknown
1936-04-150000-00-00
Roland v. StahlhelmUnknown
1936-04-150000-00-00
Roni v. StahlhelmUnknown
1936-04-150000-00-00
Carlo v. SchusterbrunnenUnknown
1936-05-090000-00-00
Cilla v. SchusterbrunnenUnknown
1936-05-090000-00-00
Cilli v. SchusterbrunnenUnknown
1936-05-090000-00-00
Cilo v. SchusterbrunnenUnknown
1936-05-090000-00-00
Cito v. SchusterbrunnenUnknown
1936-05-090000-00-00
Curt v. SchusterbrunnenUnknown
1936-05-090000-00-00
Adda v. EmslandUnknown
1936-05-140000-00-00
Artus v. EmslandUnknown
1936-05-140000-00-00
Negus v. LudwigsburgUnknown
1936-05-210000-00-00
Nelly v. LudwigsburgUnknown
1936-05-210000-00-00
Nieker v. LudwigsburgUnknown
1936-05-210000-00-00
Nixe v. LudwigsburgUnknown
1936-05-210000-00-00
Nober v. LudwigsburgUnknown
1936-05-210000-00-00
Leny v. SilbergrundUnknown
1936-05-240000-00-00
Lora v. SilbergrundUnknown
1936-05-240000-00-00
Lord v. SilbergrundUnknown
1936-05-240000-00-00
Lux v. SilbergrundUnknown
1936-05-240000-00-00
Hamlet v.d. FuggerstadtUnknown
1936-07-120000-00-00
Hansl v.d. FuggerstadtUnknown
1936-07-120000-00-00
Harro v.d. FuggerstadtUnknown
1936-07-120000-00-00
Alex v. MuldershofUnknown
1936-07-230000-00-00
Asta v. MuldershofUnknown
1936-07-230000-00-00
Azor v. MuldershofUnknown
1936-07-230000-00-00
Alex v. JungfernkopfUnknown
1936-07-300000-00-00
Alf v. JungfernkopfUnknown
1936-07-300000-00-00
Arko v. JungfernkopfUnknown
1936-07-300000-00-00
Arno v. JungfernkopfUnknown
1936-07-300000-00-00
Asta v. JungfernkopfUnknown
1936-07-300000-00-00
Astor v. JungfernkopfUnknown
1936-07-300000-00-00
Wakker v.d. WachtparadeUnknown
1936-08-080000-00-00
Waldfried v.d. Wachtparade Unknown
1936-08-080000-00-00
Waldo v.d. WachtparadeUnknown
1936-08-080000-00-00
Walter v.d. Wachtparade Unknown
1936-08-080000-00-00
Wantor v.d. Wachtparade Unknown
1936-08-080000-00-00
Wilson v.d. Wachtparade Unknown
1936-08-080000-00-00
Wim v.d. Wachtparade Unknown
1936-08-080000-00-00
Windsor v.d. Wachtparade Unknown
1936-08-080000-00-00
Wolga v.d. Wachtparade Unknown
1936-08-080000-00-00
Bella v.d. SiegessäuleUnknown
1936-08-190000-00-00
Blanka v.d. SiegessäuleUnknown
1936-08-190000-00-00
Blücher v.d. SiegessäuleUnknown
1936-08-190000-00-00
Briska v.d. SiegessäuleUnknown
1936-08-190000-00-00
Burga v.d. SiegessäuleUnknown
1936-08-190000-00-00
Janny v. HagenstolzUnknown
1936-09-050000-00-00
Jenny v. HagenstolzUnknown
1936-09-050000-00-00
Jessy v. HagenstolzUnknown
1936-09-050000-00-00
Jockel v. HagenstolzUnknown
1936-09-050000-00-00
Jula v. HagenstolzUnknown
1936-09-050000-00-00
Jutta v. HagenstolzUnknown
1936-09-050000-00-00
Senta v. StahlhelmUnknown
1936-09-110000-00-00
Siegfried v. StahlhelmUnknown
1936-09-110000-00-00
Sieghart v. StahlhelmUnknown
1936-09-110000-00-00
Sorma v. StahlhelmUnknown
1936-09-110000-00-00
Nanny v. RödeltalUnknown
1936-10-220000-00-00
Nelly v. RödeltalUnknown
1936-10-220000-00-00
Nero v. RödeltalUnknown
1936-10-220000-00-00
Nestor v. RödeltalUnknown
1936-10-220000-00-00
Niku v. RödeltalUnknown
1936-10-220000-00-00
Nixe v. RödeltalUnknown
1936-10-220000-00-00
Nora v. RödeltalUnknown
1936-10-220000-00-00
Nurmi v. RödeltalUnknown
1936-10-220000-00-00
Nut v. RödeltalUnknown
1936-10-220000-00-00
Hamlet v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-11-190000-00-00
Hans v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-11-190000-00-00
Harras v. Simmenau (DZB 51414)Unknown
1936-11-190000-00-00
Herold v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-11-190000-00-00
Hertha v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-11-190000-00-00
Hilda v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-11-190000-00-00
Horst v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-11-190000-00-00
Hulda v. SimmenauUnknown
1936-11-190000-00-00
Alida v.d. Oude BarkmolenUnknown
1936-12-050000-00-00
Amanda v.d. Oude BarkmolenUnknown
1936-12-050000-00-00
Astrid v.d. Oude BarkmolenUnknown
1936-12-050000-00-00
Kari v.d. SchwarzwaldperleUnknown
1937-01-030000-00-00
Kleo v.d. SchwarzwaldperleUnknown
1937-01-030000-00-00
Kleta v.d. SchwarzwaldperleUnknown
1937-01-030000-00-00
Klodi v.d. SchwarzwaldperleUnknown
1937-01-030000-00-00
Kordi v.d. SchwarzwaldperleUnknown
1937-01-030000-00-00
Kuno v.d. SchwarzwaldperleUnknown
1937-01-030000-00-00
Faust v. RauhfelsenUnknown
1937-01-090000-00-00
Fee v. RauhfelsenUnknown
1937-01-090000-00-00
Ferry v. RauhfelsenUnknown
1937-01-091943-07-006y.6m. / found dead in kennel autop
Figaro v. RauhfelsenUnknown
1937-01-090000-00-00
Fine v. RauhfelsenUnknown
1937-01-090000-00-00
Freya v. RauhfelsenUnknown
1937-01-090000-00-00
Frido v. RauhfelsenUnknown
1937-01-090000-00-00
Barry v. TauzieherUnknown
1937-02-040000-00-00
Bella v. TauzieherUnknown
1937-02-040000-00-00
Benno v. TauzieherUnknown
1937-02-040000-00-00
Blanka v. TauzieherUnknown
1937-02-040000-00-00
Boddo v. TauzieherUnknown
1937-02-040000-00-00
Britta v. TauzieherUnknown
1937-02-040000-00-00
Bruno v. TauzieherUnknown
1937-02-040000-00-00
Illo v. SimmenauUnknown
1937-02-110000-00-00
Ilse v. SimmenauUnknown
1937-02-110000-00-00
Inge v. SimmenauUnknown
1937-02-110000-00-00
Isolde v. SimmenauUnknown
1937-02-110000-00-00
Ivan v. SimmenauUnknown
1937-02-110000-00-00
Jockel v. SimmenauUnknown
1937-02-110000-00-00
Jost v. SimmenauUnknown
1937-02-110000-00-00
Junker v. Simmenau (DZB 51490)Unknown
1937-02-110000-00-00
Juwel v. Simmenau (DZB 51486)Unknown
1937-02-110000-00-00
Berny v. LilientalUnknown
1937-03-100000-00-00
Betty v. LilientalUnknown
1937-03-100000-00-00
Biene v. LilientalUnknown
1937-03-100000-00-00
Blanka v. LilientalUnknown
1937-03-100000-00-00
Blitz v. LilientalUnknown
1937-03-100000-00-00
Blume v. LilientalUnknown
1937-03-100000-00-00
Bobby v. LilientalUnknown
1937-03-100000-00-00
Burga v. LilientalUnknown
1937-03-100000-00-00
Burschy v. LilientalUnknown
1937-03-100000-00-00
Bärbel v. LilientalUnknown
1937-03-100000-00-00
Arno (DZB 51874)Unknown
1937-03-130000-00-00
Baldo v.d. Prinzenquelle (DZB 51626)Unknown
1937-03-130000-00-00
Betti v.d. PrinzenquelleUnknown
1937-03-130000-00-00
Blanka v.d. Prinzenquelle (DZB 51630)Unknown
1937-03-130000-00-00
Blitz v.d. PrinzenquelleUnknown
1937-03-130000-00-00
Britta v.d. PrinzenquelleUnknown
1937-03-130000-00-00
Maly v.d. Mangolds-RuheUnknown
1937-04-010000-00-00
Meta v.d. Mangolds-RuheUnknown
1937-04-010000-00-00
Metor v.d. Mangolds-RuheUnknown
1937-04-010000-00-00
Minka v.d. Mangolds RuheUnknown
1937-04-010000-00-00
Karlo v. HagenstolzUnknown
1937-04-180000-00-00
Kasper v. HagenstolzUnknown
1937-04-180000-00-00
Kitty v. Hagenstolz (DZB 51849)Unknown
1937-04-180000-00-00
Klaus v. HagenstolzUnknown
1937-04-180000-00-00
Kora v. HagenstolzUnknown
1937-04-180000-00-00
Kuno v. HagenstolzUnknown
1937-04-180000-00-00
Kurt v. HagenstolzUnknown
1937-04-180000-00-00
Ramsa v. Bad HeidelbergUnknown
1937-04-280000-00-00
Rino v. Bad HeidelbergUnknown
1937-04-280000-00-00
Rita v. Bad HeidelbergUnknown
1937-04-280000-00-00
Ritter v. Bad HeidelbergUnknown
1937-04-280000-00-00
Rolf v. Bad HeidelbergUnknown
1937-04-280000-00-00
Roma v. Bad HeidelbergUnknown
1937-04-280000-00-00
Ruscha v. Bad HeidelbergUnknown
1937-04-280000-00-00
Alex (DZB 52005)Unknown
1937-05-010000-00-00
Alfons (DZB 52006)Unknown
1937-05-010000-00-00
Anny (DZB 52008)Unknown
1937-05-010000-00-00
Arras (DZB 52007)Unknown
1937-05-010000-00-00
Asta (DZB 52009)Unknown
1937-05-010000-00-00
Desir v. SchusterbrunnenUnknown
1937-05-010000-00-00
Dieter v. SchusterbrunnenUnknown
1937-05-010000-00-00
Dolf v. SchusterbrunnenUnknown
1937-05-010000-00-00
Donner v. SchusterbrunnenUnknown
1937-05-010000-00-00
Doris v. SchusterbrunnenUnknown
1937-05-010000-00-00
Dorle v. SchusterbrunnenUnknown
1937-05-010000-00-00
Odin v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-05-210000-00-00
Olaf v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-05-210000-00-00
Olly v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-05-210000-00-00
Oloff v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-05-210000-00-00
Onny v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-05-210000-00-00
Orest v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-05-210000-00-00
Orry v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-05-210000-00-00
Ossy v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-05-210000-00-00
Othello v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-05-210000-00-00
Karol v. SimmenauUnknown
1937-06-170000-00-00
Klaus v. Simmenau (DZB 51684)Unknown
1937-06-170000-00-00
Knospe v. SimmenauUnknown
1937-06-170000-00-00
Knud v. SimmenauUnknown
1937-06-170000-00-00
Kora v. SimmenauUnknown
1937-06-170000-00-00
Kraft v. SimmenauUnknown
1937-06-170000-00-00
Krone v. SimmenauUnknown
1937-06-170000-00-00
Kunz v. Simmenau (DZB 51687)Unknown
1937-06-170000-00-00
Cherloc v. PrinzenbauUnknown
1937-06-220000-00-00
Claudia v. PrinzenbauUnknown
1937-06-220000-00-00
Claudius v. PrinzenbauUnknown
1937-06-220000-00-00
Clennor v. PrinzenbauUnknown
1937-06-220000-00-00
Cleo v. PrinzenbauUnknown
1937-06-220000-00-00
Clivia v. PrinzenbauUnknown
1937-06-220000-00-00
Cyrus v. PrinzenbauUnknown
1937-06-220000-00-00
Favoriet v. WijnandaUnknown
1937-07-030000-00-00
Felix v. WijnandaUnknown
1937-07-030000-00-00
Freddy v. WijnandaUnknown
1937-07-030000-00-00
Friedo v. WijnandaUnknown
1937-07-030000-00-00
Marko v.d. SchwarzwaldperleUnknown
1937-08-030000-00-00
Max v.d. SchwarzwaldperleUnknown
1937-08-030000-00-00
Milo v.d. SchwarzwaldperleUnknown
1937-08-030000-00-00
Moritz v.d. SchwarzwaldperleUnknown
1937-08-030000-00-00
Muck v.d. SchwarzwaldperleUnknown
1937-08-030000-00-00
Cajus v.d. SiegerssäuleUnknown
1937-08-080000-00-00
Cajus v.d. SiegessäuleUnknown
1937-08-080000-00-00
Comtess v.d. SiegerssäuleUnknown
1937-08-080000-00-00
Comtess v.d. SiegessäuleUnknown
1937-08-080000-00-00
Cora v.d. SiegerssäuleUnknown
1937-08-080000-00-00
Cora v.d. SiegessäuleUnknown
1937-08-080000-00-00
Cäsar v.d. SiegerssäuleUnknown
1937-08-080000-00-00
Cäsar v.d. SiegessäuleUnknown
1937-08-080000-00-00
Adonis v. BrüningshofUnknown
1937-09-040000-00-00
Alfred v. BrüningshofUnknown
1937-09-040000-00-00
Amie v. BrüningshofUnknown
1937-09-040000-00-00
Angli v. BrüningshofUnknown
1937-09-040000-00-00
Anita v. BrüningshofUnknown
1937-09-040000-00-00
Ardath v. BrüningshofUnknown
1937-09-040000-00-00
Arno v. BrüningshofUnknown
1937-09-040000-00-00
Arwin v. BrüningshofUnknown
1937-09-040000-00-00
Astrid v. BrüningshofUnknown
1937-09-040000-00-00
Edy v. PfeddersheimUnknown
1937-09-120000-00-00
Elfe v. PfeddersheimUnknown
1937-09-120000-00-00
Landgraf v. HagenstolzUnknown
1937-11-210000-00-00
Lasso v. HagenstolzUnknown
1937-11-210000-00-00
Leuthold v. HagenstolzUnknown
1937-11-210000-00-00
Loni v. HagenstolzUnknown
1937-11-210000-00-00
Lord v. HagenstolzUnknown
1937-11-210000-00-00
Lore v. Hagenstolz Unknown
1937-11-210000-00-00
Lumpi v. HagenstolzUnknown
1937-11-210000-00-00
Pascha v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-12-110000-00-00
Perry v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-12-110000-00-00
Pia v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-12-110000-00-00
Poldi v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-12-110000-00-00
Polly v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-12-110000-00-00
Prinz v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-12-110000-00-00
Prinzess v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-12-110000-00-00
Pussy v. RödeltalUnknown
1937-12-110000-00-00
Hallwyre HedwigUnknown
1939-12-250000-00-00
Hallwyre Hettye v. CartlichUnknown
1939-12-250000-00-00
Hallwyre HexiaUnknown
1939-12-250000-00-00
Hallwyre High 'n MightyUnknown
1939-12-250000-00-00
Empress of KarlUnknown
1940-10-150000-00-00
Linda of LindengrusUnknown
1940-10-150000-00-00
Mark Birchwood v.d. TrollUnknown
1943-00-000000-00-00
Micah Birchwood v.d. TrollUnknown
1943-00-000000-00-00
Blank v. TrollUnknown
1945-02-160000-00-00
Diana v. NordeckUnknown
1948-04-200000-00-00
Dieter v. NordeckUnknown
1948-04-200000-00-00
Dingo v. NordeckUnknown
1948-04-200000-00-00
Dolf v. NordeckUnknown
1948-04-200000-00-00
Donner v. NordeckUnknown
1948-04-200000-00-00
Dora v. NordeckUnknown
1948-04-200000-00-00
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